Creationist: Aliens are actually demons

Creationists try to break science so they get to be included, but in the process they have to accept silly ideas. Like aliens being demons.


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Way back in the early 2000s, creationists tried to get their “science” taught in classrooms. They wanted to redefine science in such a manner they’d be accepted within it. Before this approach failed, it did reveal something interesting.  Based upon the new definition of “science”, astrology would be included. This is quite telling; showing just how lax the creationist standard of evidence is. As I’ve been documenting for some time, the creationist perspective of evidence (and their “science”) hasn’t improved. And now it’s led to the acceptance of something arguably even crazier than astrology: the claim aliens are actually demons.

And this isn’t some fringe idea either. It’s found on the pages of Creation Ministries International, the granddaddy of modern creationist groups which gave rise to many others; including Ken Ham’s Answers in Genesis (and their silly ark).

But what if the ark was built by aliens?

But what if the ark was built by aliens?

Demons posing as aliens

The bizarre article in question is called “UFOs are not extraterrestrial” and is by Gary Bates, their resident UFOlogist. He’s written dozens of articles on the subject for CMI, along with a book that expands on this position.  The gist of the article is that UFO encounters are totes real, but cannot be alien in nature. Instead, he suggests they must be encounters of a “spiritual” nature. What exactly does that mean? It depends on you ask, Gary doesn’t elaborate in the article. But his readers think its demons, others place the blame on fallen angels; whilst elsewhere Gary himself has claimed they may well be the direct work of Satan himself. And for all I know, all those three options could be the same thing. Demonic theology isn’t exactly my strong point.

Now normally, I might deconstruct this idea and explain exactly why it’s nonsense. But I don’t think that’s necessary here. Instead, I’ll be picking out some choice quotes Gary and CMI are advocating in the 21st century. THE 21ST CENTURY *sigh*. Because it turns out when you throw out science, all sorts of nonsense can replace it.

First up is Gary’s account of how he came to be convinced. When investigating UFOs, he found they weren’t hoaxes or mistakes, but something more evil.

Words fail me

Words fail me

Elsewhere, he elaborates on the message of these aliens (that life evolved elsewhere); which proves they’re Satanic in nature.

The amazing Satan's plot has been foiled by a 384 page book

The amazing Satan’s plot has been foiled by a 384 page book

And his readers agree with him, commenting

As if being witnessed to wasn't annoying enough already

As if being witnessed to wasn’t annoying enough already

All of which is nicely summarised by a press release about Gary’s book tour.

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Demonic aliens trying to convince you of evolution

So why are the demons going through all this effort? To convince you evolution is true of course! That draws people away from the Christian worldview, towards hell.

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http://creation.com/aliens-are-coming

But that’s an “if.” Does he really think its aliens? It seems so

http://creation.com/ufos-and-aliensis-there-something-going-on

http://creation.com/ufos-and-aliensis-there-something-going-on

Adding elsewhere

http://creation.com/aliens-are-coming

Science works. And when you break it, bad ideas creep in. There’s just no stopping them, as all this demonstrates.

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20 thoughts on “Creationist: Aliens are actually demons”

  1. Rebecca T. says:

    I read one guys youtube channel that posts new ufo sitings/video and other science/space stuff that I find to be one of the few credible ones on there and god the trolls! I see theses people saying aliens are demons on there posting all the time! , them and the stupid flat earthers! I still just cant believe anyone could believe the earth is flat! I believe they are also creationists too. Sheesh did these people all drink the bad cool-aide as kids or were they all raised in some mountain town in the middle of no where with no science taught in the schools or what? because I just find it so hard to believe anyone in this day and age can believe that crap! and here I never really though I was THAT smart but geez they all make me sound like a freakin brainiac! lol

    1. Adam Benton says:

      It is certainly strange to consider why bad ideas often seem to have long legs. I suspect a part of it stems from being in an echo chamber. If most people you speak to agree with you (because you sought out like minded people) it likely seems a lot less crazy than it actually is.

  2. philipcoggan says:

    Can I just suggest, very nicely, that the next time you engage with Christians of this ilk, you critique their prime text for them, namely the Bible? It has a history, there are dates when the various books were written, reasons for the writing, authors. All these are pretty well agreed in appropriate scholarly circles. Genesis, for example, was pulled together around 500 BC, give or take 50 years (no, I’m not making this up, it’s a common consensus), and Genesis chapters 1-11, which includes the Ark and Creation stories, is even later, around the early 2nd century. This is not news in academic circles, and not controversial.

    1. Christopher Nelson says:

      And so? We’re waiting for the shoe to drop…

    2. Adam Benton says:

      With the exception of this bizarre story, I typically focus on the palaeoanthropology behind their claims because that’s my area of expertise. I don’t know too much about how the Bible came to be, so tend to steer clear of that topic.

  3. Eve says:

    It would be rather nice to consider that an alien race gave us a gene update to increase our cranial capacity and thought process. Demons are bad compared to Angels. Imagine that Aliens have been popping into our backward planet for many years and they have evolved from non agressive species(not ape). They may actually be quite friendly fellows. Can’t see why a million year advanced race would want to take over the world in a demonic nature. There’s plenty ( billions and billions) of rocky planets out there waiting to be discovered( role on James Webb spacecraft etc) and plenty of places for them to stop off for a coffee before they get to our nuclear charged earth. Limit your mind and limit your growth. Limit your growth and limit your evolution. I will have to write a book called Angels and Demons…..oh shucks it’s been written.

    1. Adam Benton says:

      However, angels and demons didn’t have a plot half as creative as this

  4. Belac says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02HLmCr4YbU
    Seems as though they’ve “cracked the code” again, eh?

    1. Adam Benton says:

      Oh boy that was painful. After 4 minutes of the most 90s stuff ever it’s right in with the fallacies. Literally the first sentence is about how it’s either evolution or YEC-ism.

  5. Anonymous says:

    Charles darwin was an idiot and his theory is full of holes. 200 years later and still no “missing link”. Not to mention no human remains have been found earlier than 5,500 -6,000 years ago. Im banking on the creator yahweh. If there is no god then were good but if there is, a lot of people are going to be really upset when they pass on to the other side.

    1. Adam Benton says:

      The oldest known anatomically modern humans are the Omo remains, which include two partial skulls, four jaws, a legbone, around two hundred teeth and several other parts. These have been dated to 195,000 years ago; making your claim about the oldest human remains wrong by a couple of orders of magnitude.

  6. Tony Breeden says:

    Yes, well, not all of us filthy creationists buy Gary Bates’ argument that aliens are demonic.

    http://Exotheology.org advocates the Psychosocial Hypothesis of UFO and leaves the possibility of extraterrestrial life that hasn’t visited this earth open to question.

    1. Adam Benton says:

      And yet the demonic arguments, or other similar anti-alien sentiments, can be found throughout the creationist institutions with the highest budget. Why do you think this position is so entrenched within so many organisations?

      1. Tony Breeden says:

        Well, I’m only an armchair historian, but the demonic hypothesis really does strike one as an extension of the evangelical futurism obsession. More specifically, its a holdover from the evangelical Satanic Panic grist mill.

        My hope is that this theory, once further examined, will eventually go the way of the Vapor Canopy Theory.

        1. Adam Benton says:

          I can 2 dozen species of hominin spread out over 7 million years, but haha, I recognise only about half of the words in that comment. Could you dumb it down a bit for an outsider like me please?

      2. Tony Breeden says:

        Well, the modern creationist movement is basically compromised of Adventist, fundamentalist (and conservative evangelical), and charismatic traditions. The Adventists allow for alien life and at this stage in my research I cannot see where they have ever really espoused a demonic hypothesis. I’ve traced the charismatic adoption of the demonic hypothesis and tge fundamentalist adoption of the same to different catalysts. The charismatics adopted it in reaction to the occult associations of the contactee movement. In fact, you can trace it all back to Truman Bethurum and George Van Tassel’s first Giant Rock Spacecraft Convention in 1954. The charismatics’ emphasis on spiritual warfare and casting out devils made the demonic hypothesis a satisfying answer to the UFO phenomenon. The modern fundamentalist/evangelical adoption occurred in the midst of the Satanic Panic and its emphasis on cult awareness so the demonic hypothesis was likewise satisfying as a one-size-fits-all answer. The exception was the fundamentalist 21st Century UFO Bureau formed by Carl McIntire, which believed that UFOs might be piloted by holy angels, fallen angels or even unfallen extraterrestrial beings, depending upon the sighting in question. They deserve kudos for not letting the fallen angels have all of the saucerian fun; the Bible says that holy angels twice outnumber the fallen so it is passing strange that if fallen angels cam pilot UFOs or appear as UFOs that their unfallen counterparts do not likewise. Almost all demonic hypotheses of UFO suffer from this plot hole. The demonic hypothesis was reinforced by the abduction phenomenon, especially the claims of CE4 Research Group (Joe Jordan et al) that abductions can be stopped by calling on the name of Jesus. Gary Bates’ book used CE4’s claim to support the demonic hypothesis in his Amazon bestseller Alien Intrusion, which pretty much established the demonic hypothesis and the anti-alien position as standard creationist dogma. Incidentally, CE4 seems to mostly be a part of the charismatic tradition. Most of the UFO books written from a Christian perspective by those from the traditions creationism pulls from promote the demonic hypothesis. Henry Morris was as nasty in his opposition to ET as Pat Robertson. It became entrenched because it was accepted by early modern creationist leadership and there really hasn’t been much of a challenge to it. I’m still researching Henry Morris’ influences so I might have better insight later

        1. Adam Benton says:

          That cleared a lot up, thanks.

  7. jaycoolbreeze says:

    Please clear this up for me. In your article you state that “words fail you” after you illustrate “Gary’s account of how he came to be convinced…” in regards to his witnessing individuals “communicating” with Aliens. Are you stating that ‘no channeling” takes place at UFO events? In reality at numerous UFO events many of those in attendance claim to be contacts for Aliens, and often the New Age idea of “Ascended Masters” springs up. OR…Are you somehow suggesting that people at UFO conferences who channel “Aliens” are actually in conference with “Aliens”? While I doubt you are trying to state the later, Eurocentric secularist “logic” escapes me. OR…Are you stating that Gary seeing something wrong or “evil” about individuals who state that they are channeling aliens is “somehow” wrong? Maybe by your ‘logic” this Gary should have been convinced that Aliens are in contact with people at this conference he attended, and that this action is both good and righteous! The Religions of the modern occult and ‘UFO Meme’ would not fit in with Gary’s religious perspective so his seeing something wrong with those people at a UFO conference is a very natural flow of logic. Demons or not, people who communicate with Aliens is an alarming concept. But for people like yourself we should be more concerned with “Gary’.

    1. Adam Benton says:

      Let’s break it down. Gary is claiming that (a) people say they’re channeling entities outside the norm, (b) they actually are but (c) they’re wrong about what they’re talking too and (d) Gary knows what it is. It’s demons.

      All but the first of these points are extraordinary claims that would dramatically reshape our understanding of the world. And yet the evidence provided for such a dramatic claim are essentially just his assertions. These unsubstantiated passing references, assorted quotes and links to similar articles. For such a significant claim the evidence is horrifically scant.

      That is why words fail me. Gary is making bold claims yet providing fairly shoddy reasons to accept them.

      1. jaycoolbreeze says:

        Greatly appreciate your work and reply!

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